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Mike Patton

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Trey Spruance didn't want to tour for ages. And Dean Menta has always been our guitar-roadie during Angel Dust, and I remember him playing fantastically during soundchecks. During each gig, he was watching from the side of the stage, seeing Big Jim play stuff that he could play better.
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"Dangerous Jokers" - (Nieuwe Revu, 17-24 May 1995)

 
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